'07/12/05 Something about Women... (Host: Rock)

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'07/12/05 Something about Women... (Host: Rock)

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Dear YoYos,
HI, I’m Rock. I will be the host of the coming Wednesday. The following articles discuss the rising of women. As we all know, our world has been governed by men for quiet a long time, but things are changing. Women are getting more and more powerful in many fields, some of them are even traditionally dominated by men. Who knows? Maybe the next president of USA can be a female! This will be a good news for women, and can be good for men, too. Someone said that a world controlled by women will be a better world. Do you think so?

Session 1
Women with Money Encounter the Fragile Male Ego on Dates
New York Times, Oct. 1, 2007
By Alex Williams

For Whitney Hess, a 25-year-old software designer in Manhattan, the tension that ultimately ended her recent relationships was right there in the digits on her pay stub.
The awkwardness started with nights out. She would want to try the latest chic restaurant, but her boyfriends, who worked in creative jobs that paid less than hers, preferred less expensive places.
They would say, “Wow, you’re so sophisticated,” she recalled. “They wouldn’t want me to see their apartments,” because they lived in cramped surroundings far from Manhattan.
One of them, she said, finally just came out and said it. “Look,” Ms. Hess recalled him saying, “it makes me really uncomfortable that you make more money than me. I’m going to put that out on the table and try to get over it.”
But he never got over it, she said. “The sad thing is that really liked the guy.”
For the first time, women in their 20s who work full time in several American cities --- New York, Chicago, Boston and Minneapolis --- are earning higher wages than men in the same age range, according to a recent analysis of 2005 census data by Andrew Beveridge, a sociology professor at Queens College in New York.
For instance, the median income of women age 21 to 30 in New York who are employed full time was 17 percent higher than that of comparable men.
Professor Beveridge said the gap is largely driven by a gulf in education: 53 percent of women employed full time in their 20s were college graduates, compared with 38 percent of men. Women are also more likely to have graduate degrees. “They have more of everything,” Professor Beveridge said.
Women are encountering forms of hostility they weren’t prepared to meet, and are trying to figure out how to balance pride in their accomplishments against their perceived need to bolster the egos of the men they date.
“Very, very early in a date,” said Anna Rosenmann, 28, who founded a company called Eco Consulting LA, in Los Angeles, and earns up to $150,000 a year, “a men will drop comments on how much his sales team had made for the year, which mean his bonus was blah, blah, blah.” But, she said, “that’s not how we were raised.”
Ms. Rosenmann said that dating considerably older men helps her avoid innuendos from younger men who feel the threatened by her professional success.
The discomfort over who pays for what seems to be not really about money, exactly. Instead, it is suggestive of the complex psychology of what many of these women expect from their dates (for him to be a traditional source of financial support) and what they think they should expect (for him to be a nice guy).
On a first date at a lounge in Midtown Manhattan, Thrupthi Reddy, 28, a marketing strategist, watched her date not even flinch when she handed the waitress her credit card. Initially miffed, she recognized her own contradictions.
“You wonder if you’re being a hypocrite,” she recalled, “because all date long I’m telling him how independent I was, and how annoying it was that men wouldn’t date strong independent women.”

QUESTIONS
1. Have you ever encountered a situation like this? Would you accept the “rich women pay the check” policy?
2. According to Professor Beveridge, the income gap is caused by education. Why do women tend to have a higher education? Do you think it’s also true here in Taiwan?
3. Are women going to take over men in the near future?



Session 2
Computer Science Takes Steps to Bring Women to the Fold
By CORNELIA DEAN
excerpted from New York Times
April 17, 2007

CAMBRIDGE, Mass. — For decades, undergraduate women have been moving in ever greater numbers into science and engineering departments at American universities. Yet even as they approach or exceed enrollment parity in mathematics, biology and other fields, there is one area in which their presence relative to men is static or even shrinking: computer science.
Women received about 38 percent of the computer science bachelor’s degrees awarded in the United States in 1985, the peak year, but in 2003, the figure was only about 28 percent, according to the National Science Foundation.
At universities that also offer graduate degrees in computer science, only 17 percent of the field’s bachelor’s degrees in the 2003-4 academic year went to women, according to the Taulbee Survey, conducted annually by an organization for computer science research.
Since then, many in the field say, the situation has worsened. They say computing is the only realm of science or technology in which women are consistently giving ground. They also worry that the number of women is dropping in graduate programs and in industry.
They are concerned about this trend, they say, not just because they want to see young women share the field’s challenges and rewards, but also because they regard the relative absence of women as a troubling indicator for American computer science generally — and for the economic competitiveness that depends on it.
“Women are the canaries in the coal mine,” Lenore Blum, a computer scientist at Carnegie Mellon University, told an audience at Harvard University in March, in a talk on this “crisis” in computer science. Factors driving women away will eventually drive men away as well, she and others say.
The big problems, these and other experts say, are prevailing images of what computer science is and who can do it.
“The nerd factor is huge,” Dr. Cuny said. According to a 2005 report by the National Center for Women and Information Technology, an academic-industry collaborative formed to address the issue, when high school girls think of computer scientists they think of geeks, pocket protectors, isolated cubicles and a lifetime of staring into a screen writing computer code.
This image discourages members of both sexes, but the problem seems to be more prevalent among women. “They think of it as programming,” Dr. Cuny said. “They don’t think of it as revolutionizing the way we are going to do medicine or create synthetic molecules or study our impact on the climate of the earth.”
Others worry that the field cannot grow to its potential if it lacks women’s perspective. “Does it matter that women’s outlook is missing? I think it does,” Dr. Cuny said. “Technology is pervasive in society, and its impact is only going to increase. Shouldn’t everyone have a voice in shaping the technology?”
For her part, Dr. Ryder said that after working for decades as computer scientists, she and other women in the field were sad not to see more young women joining them. “We’re senior now, and we don’t see who is coming along,” Dr. Ryder said. “For me, this is a professional and a personal frustration.”

QUESTIONS
1. Do you believe that men and women are good in different areas by nature? What are the possible academic strong points and weak points for men and women? For example, do you think that men are tent to be good at math and science, while women are good at literature and arts?
2. Why don’t most girls like computer science? How can we change the situation?
3. Have you ever fixed a computer problem for your girlfriends, or asked your boyfriends to fix it for you? Do you think it’s easy for a girl to learn computer if they want to?
4. Is it a good job for women to work in the IT industry? Why or why not?

Agenda

6:45 or earlier The host (and guests) arriving at the meeting place
6:45 ~ 7:00 Greetings and free talk among members and guests /recording individual orders/getting newcomers’ information
7:00 sharp Beginning of the meeting
7:00 ~ 7:10 Opening remarks/ newcomers self-introduction of /grouping

(Session I)
7:10 ~ 7:50 First discussion session (7:35 Reminding each group of making a review for the speaker)
7:50 ~ 8:00 First summarization
8:00 ~ 8:10 Regrouping and taking a break (Intermission)

(Session II)
8:10 ~ 8:40 Second discussion session (8:35 Reminding each group of making a review for the speaker)
8:40 ~ 8:50 Second summarization
8:50 ~ 9:00 Concluding remarks/feedback from newcomers/ announcements


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Georgia
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文章 Georgia »

interesting....

如果那天我的阿拉伯學生又請假,我就可以去參加了 ... ToT
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Rock
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Woo~~~! It's not fair! What can I do without you!!!
Please leave your Arabic student alone :?
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:twisted: This meeting i like it If I have free time I will go to yoyo English Club talk about the meeting with everybody I hope I can go
分享者:Andy Lin 情歌王子 豪哥 :roll:
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Rock
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Hahahaha~~~ I did it!
There are 200 members in this club, so it should be 4 years later for me to do this hosting thing next time!!! What a relief!

Thank you guys for filling the space of the coffee shop's basement. Lydia, Kooper, Luis, Hanfy and her boyfriend?, top boy Darron and top girl Carmen, Mark the second-time new comer, Author and Sherry the first-time rookies, and two other handsome gentlemen who I forget their names. (I'm not good at remembering male names) Do I miss anyone?

Special thanks to Carmen. According to the legend, she only show up once a year!!! It's my great honor to have this amazingly smart lady here. Thank you!!! OOOPs! Luis, I also want to thank you although I see you all the time...budy :lol:
Kooper
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文章 Kooper »

Rock gave us a very creative opening tonight through the development of a vocabulary tree relating to the topic.

It looks as if a teacher is teaching his students vocabulary of gender difference. :twisted:
Kooper
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文章 Kooper »

Participants (14): Rock, Lydia, Sherry Liao, Luis, Anthony, Carmen, Mark Huang, Arthur Huang, Tommy, Darren Lin, Hanphy, Rico, Arthur Wang, Kooper

New comers (2): Sherry Liao, Arthur Huang

Speakers: Mark Huang, Arthur Huang, Carmen, Darren Lin, Sherry Liao, Hanphy


Welcome Sherry and Arthur Huang.

Sherry gave us a well-prepared introduction and feedback tonight. Very impressive~
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Rock 寫:Hahahaha~~~ I did it!
There are 200 members in this club, so it should be 4 years later for me to do this hosting thing next time!!! What a relief!
Rock大哥, 你高興太早了吧!
ㄧ年52周, 所以yoyo聚會一年有100次左右,
加上你的主持這麼有趣
昨天本來要參加, 但趕回台北已經9點多了..
殘念..
所以 拜託會長大大多找Rock救火... :twisted:
[麋鹿透社]台北知名的YOYO英語俱樂部,於2007年聖誕夜的特別活動中,順利找尋到V&A愛情手鐲,今年果然為該俱樂部帶來一片喜氣,不少成員找到他們的真愛,尚在尋覓中的單身成員,相信在不久的未來,也能找到屬於他們的幸福。
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Hanphy and Rico

文章 hanphy0120 »

Rock 寫:Hahahaha~~~ I did it!
There are 200 members in this club, so it should be 4 years later for me to do this hosting thing next time!!! What a relief!

Thank you guys for filling the space of the coffee shop's basement. Lydia, Kooper, Luis, Hanfy and her boyfriend?, top boy Darron and top girl Carmen, Mark the second-time new comer, Author and Sherry the first-time rookies, and two other handsome gentlemen who I forget their names. (I'm not good at remembering male names) Do I miss anyone?

Special thanks to Carmen. According to the legend, she only show up once a year!!! It's my great honor to have this amazingly smart lady here. Thank you!!! OOOPs! Luis, I also want to thank you although I see you all the time...budy :lol:

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Hanphy and Rico....yes, we showed up last night ....haha!
We didn't want to miss the interesting topic!!
綠茶女孩 微甜回甘
Kooper
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Rock 寫:and two other handsome gentlemen who I forget their names. (I'm not good at remembering male names)

You may express it this way - I have a short memory for men's, especially handsome men's, names. - just learned this kind of expression from a dictionary.
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文章 Georgia »

Kooper 寫:
Rock 寫:and two other handsome gentlemen who I forget their names. (I'm not good at remembering male names)

You may express it this way - I have a short memory for men's, especially handsome men's, names. - just learned this kind of expression.
To Rock :要用「whose names I forgot 」喔....^_^
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文章 Kooper »

昨天學到了"我請客"的說法:

1. It's on me.
2. My treat.
3. Let me pay the check.

paralegal: 律師的助手
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文章 Georgia »

Kooper 寫:昨天學到了"我請客"的說法:

1. It's on me.
2. My treat.
3. Let me pay the check.
有個類似的: It's on the house.
前公司有一位補教界「名師」,堅稱是 on the roof,是錯的...
沒有 on the roof 這樣的講法, on the roof 就是真的在屋頂上 = =
Kooper
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Georgia 寫:
Kooper 寫:昨天學到了"我請客"的說法:

1. It's on me.
2. My treat.
3. Let me pay the check.
有個類似的: It's on the house.
前公司有一位補教界「名師」,堅稱是 on the roof,是錯的...
沒有 on the roof 這樣的講法, on the roof 就是真的在屋頂上 = =
它的意思是所在的餐館或旅館請客
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Wayne
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文章 Wayne »

It's on the house.是指餐館老闆請客
paralegal指受過法律訓練但還沒有執照的人
paramedic 指受過醫護訓練但還沒有執照的人
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