9/28(Sat) Psychopath and Sociopath (Host:Michael)

9/28(Sat) Psychopath and Sociopath (Host:Michael)

文章Michael-liu » 週四 9月 19, 2019 3:10 pm

Section 1
What are the differences between psychopath and sociopath?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dv8zJiggBs&t= (Required material;You can turn on English caption)



1. After watching the video, do you understand the differences between psychopath and sociopath? What is the key sentence the psychologist mentioned of the difference in the video?

2. Why do human beings have conscience? What are the reasons psychopath and sociopath don't have conscience?

3. Since psychopathy is a genetic disorder, is it fair that a psychopath who murder people is sentenced death penalty?

Section 2



Introduction of a book "The Sociopath Next Door"(中譯: 4%的人毫無良知 我該怎麼辦?)

Who is the devil you know?

Is it your lying, cheating ex-husband?
Your sadistic high school gym teacher?
Your boss who loves to humiliate people in meetings?
The colleague who stole your idea and passed it off as their own?

In the pages of The Sociopath Next Door, you will realize that your ex boy friend or ex husband was not just misunderstood. He’s a sociopath. And your boss, teacher, and colleague? They may be sociopaths too.

We are accustomed to think of sociopaths as violent criminals, but in The Sociopath Next Door, Harvard psychologist Martha Stout reveals that a shocking 4 percent of ordinary people—one in twenty-five—has an often undetected mental disorder, the chief symptom of which is that that person possesses no conscience. He or she has no ability whatsoever to feel shame, guilt, or remorse. One in twenty-five everyday Americans, therefore, is secretly a sociopath. They could be your colleague, your neighbor, even family. And they can do literally anything at all and feel absolutely no guilt.

How do we recognize the remorseless? One of their chief characteristics is a kind of glow or charisma that makes sociopaths more charming or interesting than the other people around them. They’re more spontaneous, more intense, more complex, or even sexier than everyone else, making them tricky to identify and leaving us easily seduced. Fundamentally, sociopaths are different because they cannot love. Sociopaths learn early on to show sham emotion, but underneath they are indifferent to others’ suffering. They live to dominate and thrill to win.

The fact is, we all almost certainly know at least one or more sociopaths already. Part of the urgency in reading The Sociopath Next Door is the moment when we suddenly recognize that someone we know—someone we worked for, or were involved with, or voted for—is a sociopath. But what do we do with that knowledge? To arm us against the sociopath, Dr. Stout teaches us to question authority, suspect flattery, and beware the pity play(裝可憐). Above all, when a sociopath is beckoning, do not join the game.


1. Have you or your friends ever dated someone who might be a sociopath? Please share the experience. If no, can you think of a celebrity or a politician who might be a sociopath?

2. As mentioned above, do you believe that 4% of ordinary people may be a sociopath? Is the percentage too high?

3. As mentioned above, to arm us against sociopath, we need to suspect flattery and beware the pity play(裝可憐). In your life experience, have you encountered people who flatter you a lot or play a pity card to gain your sympathy?

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Re: 9/28(Sat) Psychopath and Sociopath (Host:Michael)

文章Kooper » 週六 9月 28, 2019 10:47 am

I prefer not to break criminals from death penalty for the sake of genetic disorder unless science can make a very strong case for the causal relationship and it can specifically quantify how much of a wrongdoing was contributed by nature, not by nurture.

If we agree that a psychopath can be innocent of his misconduct because of genetic defects, it should also make sense forcing them to take medicines that offset the adversary genetic effects, such as ones that stimulate or regulate sympathetic nervous system so that they feel shame or guilt the same way as a typical man. After all, it is the genes to blame and we should target the enemy right.
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Re: 9/28(Sat) Psychopath and Sociopath (Host:Michael)

文章Michael-liu » 週六 9月 28, 2019 11:05 pm

Thank you for coming


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