1/02 (Tue.) Should every school have a police officer? (Host: Rock)

[Rock]

New Taipei Student Dies after being Stabbed by Schoolmate
https://www.icrt.com.tw/info_details.ph ... _id=257308

The New Taipei Department of Education has confirmed that a junior high
school student has died after being stabbed by a schoolmate earlier this
week.

Department officials, the student was stabbed several times and died after
efforts to resuscitate him failed late Tuesday.

Reports have been saying the victim was stabbed in the neck and chest by a
ninth-grade male student after a female student complained to him about the
way the other student had spoken to her.

The injured student was rushed to the nearby Far Eastern Memorial Hospital
for treatment, but later died of his injuries.

A juvenile court has ruled that the ninth-grade male student responsible for
the attack be placed in custody - while the female student accused of
instigating the confrontation has been released into the custody of a legal
guardian.

The National Federation of Education Unions has issued a statement, saying
there are currently there are no regulations in place that allow schools to
deal with issues related to students carrying dangerous and banned items on
campus.

Session One
Should every school have a police officer?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/ ... ce-schools
https://hechingerreport.org/opinion-mor ... ools-safe/
https://www.virginiamercury.com/2022/01 ... e-officer/

1. Is having police in schools a solution for campus safety issues? Would it be good to education, too? What were the police supposed to do if they were there?
1.1 Should kids be given a ticket by police for swearing, littering, smoking or getting in to a punch-up in the playground?
1.2 In what case should kids in school be arrested and sent to court?
1.3 Should the police work independently or should they cooperate with the teachers or parents?

2. If you were a parent, would you choose a school with police? What are the good things and bad things to consider about?

3. Why do some people think schools should be police-free?

Session Two
Do kids have a right to privacy?
https://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/ ... chool.html

4. Schools in Taiwan cannot check on the students' bags anymore for privacy reasons. Is it good or bad?
4.1 In the New Taipei school killing case, the killer had brought knives to schools several times before, but the school cannot check on his bag so they couldn't prevent it. Do you have a solution to it?
4.2 The schools can only check on the students' bags when they have the permission. Would you tell your kids to give permission to a bag search in school? Why or why not?
4.3 Do you think it's the school's job to check on the student's belongings for campus safety or educational purposes? How about emails or private letters?

5. Do kids have the right to lock their doors at home and refuse their parents to enter? Do parents have the right to check on their kids' bags, drawers or diaries? Is it child abuse?

6. Can a child sue their parents or teachers for privacy violation?

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7:45 ~ 8:00pm Summarization (15 mins)
8:00 ~ 8:05pm Regrouping / Instruction Giving / Taking a 5 Minutes Break (Intermission)
(Session II)
8:05 ~ 8:40pm Discussion Session (35 mins)
8:40 ~ 8:55pm Summarization (15 mins)
8:55 ~ 9:00pm Concluding Remarks / Announcements

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[miller]

Move to the top.

[Iris Wu]

When we hear about campus shootings in the US, our reaction is no longer “shocking”. Instead, we just feel “numb”. The feelings of surprise and dread have long gone simply because such incidents happen too frequently.

What thoughts come to mind when people hear this kind of news? I think most people would ask, “Why not get rid of guns, stupid?” We understand gun control is an almost insurmountable challenge in the US. Consequently, we’ve basically given up on this argument. Perhaps, we’ve even given up the hope that a solution to this issue exists in this country.

Setting up a police force on the campus as a way to deal with campus violence? The idea strikes me as absurd.
Imagine this, relying on a single police officer to predict and react to any kind of potential violent crimes in a campus teeming with hundreds of students and possible outside intruders? The weight of responsibility and pressure must be enormous!

If you were a campus police officer, what action would you take? I honestly don’t blame these campus police officers for resorting to the use of various “profiling techniques” and more forceful methods in the hope of preventing crimes. This approach mirrors the tactics used in society in response to violent crimes with potentially more lethal weapons.

In Chinese, this is referred to as “using violence to stop the violence”, a concept that seems ingrained in American culture. You can only wish them luck if they think that’s going to work.

[Rock]

In Chinese, this is referred to as “using violence to stop the violence”, a concept that seems ingrained in American culture. You can only wish them luck if they think that’s going to work.

It doesn't work in America, but does it work in Taiwan? I shared a tediously long story about me being a "police teacher" to some of my Yoyo friends in our recent trip. The problem is that I was not a real police so it was not very effecient, sometime even dangerous, to do the job.

[Iris Wu]

In Taiwan, we seem to face completely opposite issues. Our students are overprotected, and spoiled; kids feel they are entitled and as if the world should revolve around them. Teachers seem to become “caregivers” without appropriate authority.
So, it might be a good idea to station a “strict” police officer at school to “scare” them a bit.