Kat's Tips 2 – The Best American TV Shows (for Learning...)

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Kat's Tips 2 – The Best American TV Shows (for Learning English)!

One of the best ways to pick up daily expressions is watching TV shows, where you have interesting stories (as context) to go with the language. Not all “great” TV shows, however, are appropriate for beginner to intermediate students. Some of my favorite shows might prove quite confusing or even frustrating to some. The speech in “Mad Men” is too 60's; the speed at which people talk on “West Wing” can kill you (not to mention all those political references only some American news junkies can fully appreciate); The Sopranos is full of dialogues heavy in accent and gang slang. The best choices will have to meet my criteria of: 1) relatively standard contemporary speech; 2) not requiring a cultural literacy test prior to viewing! :wink:

My advice for choosing from this selection: check out some pilots (the very first episode of each series, if there is one) first, and then pick one series you like best to stick with. Watch a whole season (or all the seasons!) before repeat viewing. On first viewing, no subtitles whatsoever! For the second time on you can turn on the English caption IF you feel it's absolutely necessary. I will argue against any subtitles if you truly wish to improve your listening. To comprehend on your own (and yes, you'll be doing a lot of guessing) is the whole point of “listening” practice. Hang in there and it will get easier as the show goes on. If you wish to work on your speaking, repeat after the dialogues as much as you can. There's no point in learning how to read and write from these shows since they are “spoken” English and not “written”. We have better sources for those skills.

For best results, don't pause or rewind! No matter how many words elude you or how frustrated you get, just sit back and try to enjoy it. To make it short (一言以蔽之 :lol: ): don't try too hard to “learn”! Get lost in the story and let the language “disappear” - that means you are truly immersed in it. That's what happens to most foreign students here in the States – after watching TV without subtitles for a couple of months, they never feel the need for them again.

YOYO -ISG is doing “Desperate Housewives” and I think it's a good choice, by the way.

Disclaimer: I was away for two years so haven't caught up with all the latest. I can only recommend from the shows I have watched. If you don't like "serious" shows, try No.2, 5 and 6 first.

OK, here's the list (finally!!! :oops: )

1. I have originally recommended "This American Life", and then it occurred to me that the availability of it could be an issue. So try this one (you can find some online): "Inside the Actors Studio". Yes, it's live interviews, but pick an actor you like and you will end up liking him or her even better afterwards!

2. Survivor – Reality shows may not be truly real, but at least they are unscritpted! Others such as “Amazing Race” and “American Idol” are good choices too.

3. 60 Minutes – The best and longest running news magazine. The language is almost beside the point. You'll learn about America as a country.

4. The Office (the British original is just as good, but totally different in tone and content, and of course the language) – Biting, smart, insightful. Get a glimpse of what it might be like working in America.

5. Lost – It's part fantasy, part social commentary. Watch and see why Americans were crazy about the show. Other fantasy, Sci-Fi or thriller shows: FlashForward (one word!). Fringe. Heroes. Medium.

6. 30 Rock – Seinfeld and Friends are perhaps better, but they are also older. Being a New Yorker I'm naturally partial to shows set in New York. :wink: Other sitcoms or comedies: Arrested Development, Scrubs, Curb Your Enthusiasm, How I Met Your Mother (NYC, again!)

7. Dexter – Gruesome to the point of unsettling, it's a show that challenges a lot of our assumptions on morality and justice. An acquired taste. But I put it on the list to promote shows that dare to push the boundaries. Similarly daring shows: Six Feet Under. Big Love. Breaking Bad. For something more lighthearted, try "Pushing Daisies".

8. Classics (if you can find them!) - Some shows are simply great, no matter how old they are. Star Trek (and The Next Generation). Columbo. Twin Peaks. Northern Exposure. Freaks and Geeks. Felicity. Veronica Mars. Firefly. My So-called Life. Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

9. If you just want great shows – Referring back to the “learner-friendliness” I mentioned in the beginning, here's a list for those who don't mind shows that require knowledge of American life or certain vernaculars to really get into them: The Sopranos. Mad Men. The West Wing. Battlestar Galactica. The Wire. Oz. Deadwood. The X-Files. The Daily Show. The Colbert Report. Law and Order. The Shield. Sports Night. Generation Kill. True Blood. South Park. The Simpsons. Entourage.

10. If you're already overwhelmed... Worry not! Any American show out there is fine – if you watch it without the subtitles! Trust me on this. Even if you feel that you don't “get” half of what's going on, your brain is processing it. Do this for a whole series and tell me what you think!
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Dear Kat,

This is great! When you said you were going to recommend some American TV programs, I didn't expect to get so varied recommendation. I simply want to watch them all! :lol:
Kat C 寫:3. 60 Minutes – The best and longest running news magazine. The language is almost beside the point. You'll learn about America as a country
I am not sure if I follow your point here. Are you trying to say that even if our purpose is not to learn English, it is still worth watching because it will help us better understand America?
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Kooper,

You got it! Of course the English in this news magazine is about as good as you can get (journalistic English generally has to meet a certain standard). But the show is great because it's so much more!

"Beside the point" is an idiom for saying that something is not important, or not the most important. I add "almost" since language IS our main focus here. I am stressing just how informative the show is.

I had great fun watching these shows. I hope you will too.
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The way they shot "The Office" knocked my socks off!
I've never thought that a sitcom could be shot like a documentary. It's really creative. :sun:
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I found that the audio podcasts of "This American Life" can be acquired for free(http://www.thisamericanlife.org/podcast) though thier video counterparts are not.
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Kooper,

Yes, The Office was quite a groundbreaking venture when it first came out in Britain. And then Americans gave it an American spin. It's especially meaningful now that the economy is a mess and a lot of people have a harder time at work. It's so successful that now it has a German, French, and many other versions - they're even reportedly working on a Chinese one!

"This American Life" started out as a radio show on NPR (National Public Radio), and then it turned into a podcast (I've downloaded EVERY single episode!), and then finally a TV show. It captures the feel and mood of this country like no other. A couple of clips can be found on line.

"Inside the Actors Studio" is actually one of my favorite shows, probably because I'm a critic and very much into performing as an art. The show can be spellbinding for movie lovers. It's a must see if you are a fan of certain actors.
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In order to get rid of the habit of watching Korean drama late at night, I have been trying to get into a new habit of listening to English podcasts in bed around bed time. What I found is 60 Minutes is indeed a very serious program. It often covers topics like soldiers in Iraq, Afghanistan, war against terrorism, etc. It once talked about a dreadful murder in which an 11-year-old son killed his father, who was a rising star among American Nazi groups. I still remember how my hair stood on end when listening to it. I guess I would try to listen to this program at a more cheerful time of a day. :shameful: It however might perfectly fits the taste of people like Luis or Wen-han.
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Kooper 寫: ...It once talked about a dreadful murder in which an 11-year-old son killed his father, who was a rising star among American Nazi groups. I still remember how my hair stood on end when listening to it.....
No worry. Yours is a daughter. She won't do this to you. :lol:
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Hi, Kat. This is Robert. We met once a long time ago. I totally agree with the way you suggest for watching froeign-language movies. My brother-in-law stayed in US for a couple of years. Even though he is already back and works in Taiwan, he still keeps watching movies without subtitles. He says he's been used to it since he was in US, but it doesn't mean he can understand 100% of their talkings. Thank you for your suggetstion.

By the way, I have a question. Now I can understand only 50% of CNN News Report. My listening problem is not vocabulary. The thing is I am not familiar enough with the vocabulary in listening. Reading is ok, but hearing the words I don't use often takes me a few seconds or minutes to think. Do you have any suggestion for it?
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Hi Robert,

Good question! When we watch a movie or TV show, the acting/action and a coherent story supply an immediate context for its language. News coverage, however, is typically short and fast with its visual, and in a formal and journalistic vernacular. It would help if you already know the news story going in. So seek out CNN's headline stories online (in English) before or after viewing its TV/video reporting.

Still, language learning is hearing the same words used in different contexts and gradually piecing together their usage. When we try to comprehend what we are hearing in a foreign language, we often approach this by asking, "what do they mean in Chinese?" But that's the wrong question. The words have their meanings in English, but may or may not do in Chinese. Even if we find (or fix) a very close translation to a certain word, it may mean something entirely different next time we hear it. So forget the individual words. Pay attention to the whole piece and where a new word is used. Next time you hear it, something just may click.

Another good exercise is to watch a same news story covered by multiple sources. For example, if you go to Google News, you'll find dozens of news videos covering the day's biggest story. Watch a few of them and see how the same story is covered and what words are used to convey it.


Hi Kooper,

I'm glad you're listening to 60 Minutes! They have some "human interest stories" too, meaning soft and heartwarming type of pieces. :)

Kat
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Hi, Kat

About American TV shows, you know what, they have used all kinds of subject for the shows such as White House, doctor, lawyer....etc.

However, I wonder why they never did a show about Wall Street. I believe it would be an interesting subject for the show.

I always expect a TV show about it, but they just never did. Any reasons?

Michael
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Hi Michael,

The fact that few people know of "Bull" (I certainly did not!) tells you how tough this subject matter is to do. Bankers are bad guys nowadays. :) See how "Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps" barely broke even?

My favorite new show is "The Newsroom". (http://www.hbo.com/the-newsroom/index.html) It was written by Aaron Sorkin, the same guy who wrote "The West Wing" and "The Social Network".

Rock, good job finding the show!

Kat
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Almost forgot a pretty snazzy one: Leverage. It's trying to address the issue of corporate crime.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1103987/

Kat
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Hi, Kat

"The West Wing" is my favorite!!!

I found another TV series about Wall Street, but it is a reality show => http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0843835/

Michael
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