How to say 好為人師 in English

How to say 好為人師 in English

文章Kooper » 週三 10月 15, 2014 10:49 pm

As title. I wonder how to use a concise phrase or sentence to express the behavior of 好為人師 in English. Anybody can help?
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Re: How to say 好為人師 in English

文章Rock » 週四 10月 16, 2014 12:40 pm

Firstly, it's a negative term. It's not supposed to be "I love being a teacher". (Not for me, at least.)

I guess there is no perfect translation for "好為人師" because of the culture difference. Being a teacher seems not a big deal in the west; they don't worship any teachers. (Why do we deify Confucius, anyway?) The best word I can think of is "patronize".

But, maybe Kooper would think I'm patronizing him because he already knows this word?
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Re: How to say 好為人師 in English

文章Wayne » 週四 10月 16, 2014 4:45 pm

According to one of my resources:
好為人師:
1. be fond of teaching others
2. have a tendency to sermonize people
3. like to be a master to others
4. like to lecture other people
5. presumptuously to lecture people
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Re: How to say 好為人師 in English

文章Tina Sun » 週四 10月 16, 2014 5:31 pm

To be frankly, I didn't know what it means (I mean in Chinese...) when I saw this "idiom(?)'"~~ Hahaha.... :roll:
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Re: How to say 好為人師 in English

文章Rock » 週四 10月 16, 2014 8:51 pm

Tina Sun 寫:To be frankly, I didn't know what it means (I mean in Chinese...) when I saw this "idiom(?)'"~~ Hahaha.... :roll:


Amazing! Generation gap is real! :lol:
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Re: How to say 好為人師 in English

文章Kooper » 週五 10月 17, 2014 8:15 am

Wayne 寫:According to one of my resources:
好為人師:
1. be fond of teaching others
2. have a tendency to sermonize people
3. like to be a master to others
4. like to lecture other people
5. presumptuously to lecture people

Hi Wayne,
Welcome back! While I had been wondering for a while where you and Claire had gone, It's great to hear from you again.

Thank you for answering my question with varied answers. To me, 好為人師 seems to be a negative term in most cases, unless I use it sarcastically to refer to someone who is a good teacher and enjoys teaching. Of course I need to keep a right tone in such case so that people don't get confused.

I think Rock is right about the translation - there is possibly no perfect translation of the term in English. My feeling of this Chinese phrase, when it has a negative connotation, is a combination of both #4 and #3 .

An alternative to #3 that I have in mind is "like to play masters to others." Does it sound good to you?
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Re: How to say 好為人師 in English

文章Wayne » 週五 10月 17, 2014 1:14 pm

Hi Kooper,
I have been extremely busy at my work and that's why.

" 好為人師 seems to be a negative term in most cases" Indeed. Therefore, there's no way that you use it sarcastically .

"Rock is right about the translation - there is possibly no perfect translation of the term in English." -- You bet.

"like to play masters to others" I don't think such collocation exists. :shock:

I like #2: "have a tendency to sermonize people".

I have another alternative expression of my own: someone "often wants to coach others how to do someting." Can we say he is "很八婆"? (Sort of?) :wink:
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Re: How to say 好為人師 in English

文章Wayne » 週五 10月 17, 2014 1:16 pm

How about "free advice giver"?
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Re: How to say 好為人師 in English

文章Kooper » 週六 10月 18, 2014 10:58 am

Rock 寫:Firstly, it's a negative term. It's not supposed to be "I love being a teacher". (Not for me, at least.)

I guess there is no perfect translation for "好為人師" because of the culture difference. Being a teacher seems not a big deal in the west; they don't worship any teachers. (Why do we deify Confucius, anyway?) The best word I can think of is "patronize".

But, maybe Kooper would think I'm patronizing him because he already knows this word?

Not at all, Rock. You made me look up the definition of the word again and improve my English!
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