1/8(Sat.) Wang Leehom Divorce Drama (Host:Michael)

[Michael-liu]

China Superstar Wang Leehom Steps Away From the Spotlight, Faces Ban After Public Divorce Row (Row是 argument 的意思)
https://www.google.com/amp/s/variety.co ... 41863/amp/

The full first statement of Wang's wife
https://www.google.com/amp/s/tw.news.ya ... 18398.html

The full response from the wife to Wang's father
https://www.businesstoday.com.tw/articl ... 6%E6%88%91

The full first response to the wife from Wang
https://www.google.com/amp/s/tw.news.ya ... 06687.html

The full response from the wife to Wang
https://www.google.com/amp/s/tw.news.ya ... 10680.html

The full final statement from Wang
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.setn.c ... ID=1044887

Session One

1. If you must choose, do you sympathize more with Wang or his wife? Why?

2. Why do the vast majority of people, both in Taiwan and China, support Wang's wife? Some argued that the consequence Wang suffered is his whole career, which is too severe and out of the proportion (違反比例原則）Do you agree or not?

3. Some criticized that Wang's wife did not take her children into consideration when she decided to expose Wang's scandal. The wife responded "孩子需要的不是完美的父母，孩子需要的是誠實可信賴，且遇到問題能夠勇敢面對且改正的父母。如果父母偽裝完美，孩子就也會以為自己的不完美是個缺陷" Which side do you agree with?

Session Two

1. Singer 黃明志 made the following comment on his facebook:

比如有些女歌手很可愛，很無辜的樣子。有些男歌手很像白馬王子，很深情很完美的樣子。有些樂團很有兄弟情，很有信念的樣子等等... 這些都是經過設計出來的... 都是靠選曲+造型風格+服裝+妝髮+拍照內容+選填詞人+製作人+合作的品牌+企劃文案+新聞稿+MV呈現方式等等，一點一滴拼湊和打造出來的。有些甚至連講話的內容和講話的方式都要經過設計和演練。

你會問，唱歌就唱歌，好聽就好聽，為什麼要那麼麻煩呢？其實是“先有需求，才有供給”。這些所謂“很假”的東西都是社會大眾需要的，世界很現實也很醜陋，大家都需要一個幻想中的完美偶像可以寄託，就跟到佛廟拜拜的道理一樣。除此之外，這也是廠商所需要的，因為可以幫助提升品牌的形象。所以當你做到了符合市場需求的A&R，公司和藝人就可以賺大錢...

但問題我們都只是“人”，人都會改變，都會出錯。所以只要當明星“犯錯”了，應該說當他做了不符合大眾期待，或跟他原本的A&R矛盾的事情，被爆出來之後，他便會瞬間從神壇上掉下來，這就是大家所謂的“人設崩壞”...

但其實大家都心知肚明，我們每一個人都不是乾淨的，都有著自己的缺點，都有慾望，都會貪婪，也都有黑暗和醜陋的一面，只是大家不願意承認罷了... 這世界其實也就只有“神”才會是完美的。

What do you think about his comment?

2. Chinese goverment demands that entertainers be "德藝雙馨”, which means they should be good at their talent as well as their character. Do you agree? Should a populor idol have social responsibilty just as a corporation should?

3. What lessons, if any, do you think you have learned from this divorce drama?

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Agenda:
3:45 ~ 4:00pm Greetings & Free Talk / Ordering Beverage or Meal / Getting Newcomer’s Information
4:00 ~ 4:10pm Opening Remarks / Newcomer’s Self-introduction / Grouping
(Session I)
4:10 ~ 4:50pm Discussion Session (40 mins)
4:50 ~ 5:10pm Summarization (20 mins)
5:10 ~ 5:15pm Regrouping / Instruction Giving / Taking a 10 Minutes Break (Intermission)
(Session II)
5:15 ~ 5:55pm Discussion Session (40 mins)
6:00 ~ 6:20pm Summarization (20 mins)
6:20 ~ 6:30pm Concluding Remarks / Announcements

Meeting Date: As shown on the Subject Line
Meeting Time: 4:00pm – 6:30pm
Meeting Venue: 丹堤咖啡 Dante Coffee (Minimum Order $80)
Address: 台北市濟南路三段25號[MAP]-捷運忠孝新生站3號出口步行3分鐘

[Michael-liu]

Today I saw the news below

https://www.msn.com/zh-tw/entertainment ... li=BBqj0iS

It makes me believe these words more firmly "婚姻中的是是非非，只有當事人清楚"

Anyway, our meeting is to let everybody express your opinion, not argue who is right or wrong.

[Luis Ko]

3. What lessons, if any, do you think you have learned from this divorce drama?



"一切都是有跡可循, 只是我視而不見"

right, it sounds like a cliche to say ignorance is bliss but, you just can't deny to remain unaware of the facts that will alter your happiness does keep the happiness as it is at the moment. however, to really ignore the facts and act like you don't know them is just like ostrich burying it's head in the sand. it would only cause you more pain than the bliss you got in the end, especially in a relationship i would say. that's probably a lesson from this event lo~

then again, i just googled it. ostrich burying it's head in the sand actually is a myth.

[Kooper]

The links of Taiwan Yahoo news seem to have become invalid...

[Michael-liu]

The links of Taiwan Yahoo news seem to have become invalid...

Huh? Every link works fine for me. How come?

[Michael-liu]

3. What lessons, if any, do you think you have learned from this divorce drama?



"一切都是有跡可循, 只是我視而不見"

right, it sounds like a cliche to say ignorance is bliss but, you just can't deny to remain unaware of the facts that will alter your happiness does keep the happiness as it is at the moment. however, to really ignore the facts and

Many of our members are going to camping today, so please show up to contribute to the turnout.

[Luis Ko]

3. What lessons, if any, do you think you have learned from this divorce drama?



"一切都是有跡可循, 只是我視而不見"

right, it sounds like a cliche to say ignorance is bliss but, you just can't deny to remain unaware of the facts that will alter your happiness does keep the happiness as it is at the moment. however, to really ignore the facts and

Many of our members are going to camping today, so please show up to contribute to the turnout.

sorry la~ i have to work today, so didn't prepare for the meeting, a bit untidy actually. see you next time lo~

[Michael-liu]

Attendees:

Kooper, Gloria, Jerry, Jessica, Lewis, Julia, Morris, Shirley, Ramesh, Teresa, Steve, Janet, Carmelo, Leon